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    Posted: 30 Mar 2015 at 6:50am
The engine/head were rebuilt and was never reassembled.
I have a few buckets of bolts and parts. I will have to hone off the surface
Of the cylinders and turn it over.
I need info on which is the best manual for engine reassembly

Where fo I get it?
What is the best way to get the studs out if the block and head.
I have a few pictures. Just not sure how to upload them right now
I will load them to photobucket sometime today.
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Agco manual for the WD and WD 45 would be the best, IMHO.

Stud remover should get them out, or vice grips, close to the bottom of stud.  If they are real tight heat with propane torch, to about 250 F and melt a beeswax candle against the bottom threads, let cool, and try again.
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see if this works
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Originally posted by markmc60 markmc60 wrote:


See the square area, on the frame rail, above where you step up to get in? (in this photo)
That is where the grader serial number should be.  the number you chalked is the motor serial number.  Other than it being a gas motor, it doesn't say much about year, etc.
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Can someone tell me the year of this unit?
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There is the 180-15 stamped in the frame
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The data plate appears to be installed on the right side of the operators station on the outside of the enclosure. (Black plate) There will be a D number on the plate . With that number we can determine the year. Ours is a 1956, Serial D-4997.
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ohhh you mean this spot here...... yeah, not there.
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Engine Serial No. is 1949 era.

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thanks Gary, I am going to put it all back together one way or the other. just thought it would be nice to see what year the grader is. round frame and tilt front wheels, that might help me isolate it.
again, thanks to everyone for the input.
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Hi Mark.    I would assume that this grader would be from the early 1950's: WD engine, no hydraulic turn mech. for the rotation of the blade and a smaller gas tank. What is interesting is that it appears to have the tilt mech. on the front wheels.   Ross.
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In looking at the parts book, the machine upgrades took place after serial 3370. This would include the WD-45 engine, improved wheel lean as there was also a mod to the moldboard  which shows a welded and non welded mounting ball prior to serial number 2477. After  2477 the ball on the circle arm would have been welded rather than a separate part. 2477 to 3370 serial range would make it a 52-53 vintage.
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Mark, look on top of the hydraulic control box. See if there's a plate on there with some numbers.
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Good morning.   There should be a I.D. plate on the hydraulic pump also.( the pump is driven off of the crankshaft pulleys at the rear of the grader. ).   Ross.
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these are the numbers on the plate at the Hyd. control
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by the looks of the ball of the blade in this picture it is bolted on.
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A picture of the rad grill might help nail down the year, if you have the grill, that is...
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   You might try to remove some of the paint on this tag in order to see if there is some additional information under the paint. Careful, these tags may be aluminum and hard to clean so that you do not erase any information that may exist.   Ross.
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I think I have the grill, I will look in the pile of stuff, and thanks for the info.

you folks are very helpful and I thank you.
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Ross I think you're right about it being early 50's. But the tilt steering I didn't think was available till after 55.
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     i cant belive its hydralic my neighbor has a i think md100 it has gear boxes its alot newer than that          by the way thats a neet little patrol 
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no it doesnt make sense,  all the big graders were mechanical control long after D was using hydraulic control  
Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20

Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15
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