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    Posted: 16 Nov 2012 at 8:12pm
I want to convert my '58 D14 to electronic ignition.  Does anyone have experience with this and can recommend a manufacturer?  Thanks.
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i've had great luck with pertronics in the forklifts i service at work install in a delco dist. in about 10 minutes only cost around 100. 2 wires and no modifications to dist.
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Ive converted quite a few.  I have them available.
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All 3 of my d-14s are still using points and run fine so why change? 2 alternatored ,1 genny.

I have heard that the electronic ignitions unit will 'die' if tractor is jump started or other 'big sparks' occour. Hopefully others will respond to this.Best to read the install info and warranty before you buy one,just to be sure! I'd really hate to 'blow' $100.
 
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i've personall never seen those issues. i.ve only seen 1 fail out of the ten or so i've sold and all the ones the other techs at work have put in. they work great zero maintanence and seem to let them start easier
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I put Pertronix #1142 with Pertronix coil #40511 in my D14, it's so easy.
Reason: you never have to adjust points or timing.
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I have the Pertronix ignitors and flamethrower coils on both of my gas tractors. I've never had one little bit of trouble out of either one. I opened the plug gaps to .045 and both tractors start better and run smoother than they ever did with points.
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Pertronix is the way to go imho. Ive converted 9 so far,no issues. Start better, run better, more power. I open spark gap to .35, seems to work very good. Trev.
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Well worth the cost. Eliminates points, condenser and ballast resistor which are all components that can cause problems and you get a hotter spark as a bonus. Essentially install it, set the timing and forget it except to lube the distributor shaft now and then. I got a Petronix kit from Tony's Tractors. I did not change the coil at first as it seemed to test within the proper resistance rating but I found that my coil would gradually heat up and the engine would start to misfire. A new coil solved the problem. My engine needs a rebuild and the plugs would occasionally foul on two cylinders. The hotter spark has minimized that problem and I can delay the rebuild for a while.
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I finally got around to installing a Pertronix on my D14.  When you installed yours, did the magnet sit proud of the hall effect sensor by about 1/8" to 1/4"?  The magnet is sitting so high, that the dust cap won't sit flush on the distributor.  Did you have to enlarge the hole on the dust cap?  Thanks.
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Converted my WD a couple weeks ago, that makes 11 Ive done. Sometimes the magnet ring fits extremely tight on the shaft. Have to take some emery and work the shaft a little and the inside of the magnet ring, a little lube and it will go on and fit down right to the bottom of the shaft. Should not sit up as you described. They are an excellent upgrade to any gas machine in my opinion. You will have to play with timing a little, and set your plugs to 35 gap or a little more, good luck, Trev.
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I just fixed my b with pertronix last week and the hall ring did sit high and was hard to press down so i used the rotor to push it then snugged it with my hand the rest of the way. 
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Another vote for the Pertronix Ignitor here.  I've got one in my '57 D17, and have used them in a myriad of other machines... including a '54 Century Resorter with a Prestolite marine distributor on a '61 Chevy fuel-injected 283...Tongue
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I had a problem with misfiring at higher RPM on an H3 due to a sloppy distributor shaft. I installed the Pertronix kit and there was no more misfiring even though the dist. shaft was still sloppy. Well worth the $100.00
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We sell quite a few Pertronix units. Very seldom folks have problems with them. Usually, the folks that are unsure about purchasing one for their Tractor, and finally do, they're back to purchase a couple more for the their other Tractors as well after they see how well they work. LOL!  One of the things I hear from the customer after the purchase and install is: "that Tractor never started that fast since I owned it!"  They do work quite well. "Alice" my B sat outside all this Winter. Pulled the tarp off of her, stuck her charged up 6V Battery in her and she fired right off and ran like I had it running the day before. She's equipped with an E.I. also. No muss, no fuss...
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I thought the pertronix needed 12 volts? I've been thinking of buying them for my wd and CA. The CA is still six volt.
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Maybe then if I put one on my D-10, it would start before I touched the key.  :>)

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Can be had in 6 or 12, positive or negative ground, phone Steve, Trev.
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on all my 45,s i had to enlarge the disc on the dist.jim danforth,mounds oklahoma has everything you need and is a great gentleman to deal with....
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Thanks for the referral JW. Yes, we have them available. I am not a huge fan of the 6v electronic systems. If the battery is a little weak (and mine seem to always be) the ignition will not fire off. 12V has a wider window of operation and seems a little more reliable. I have seen a couple of the 12V Positive grounds burn out when jump starting too.
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