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Austin(WI) 
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 Topic: New Allis BookPosted: 13 Jun 2012 at 10:08pm |
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Out of curioslty, what would people be looking for in the next AC book? Something geared just toward the Tractor Division or an overall history.
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EricSWPA
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Posted: 13 Jun 2012 at 11:12pm |
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I like the overall history personally
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Posted: 14 Jun 2012 at 5:53am |
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Overall History is my opinion. I'd really like a book about all of Allis' other divisions that nobody hears about anymore.
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Don(MI)
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Posted: 14 Jun 2012 at 6:27am |
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I would say Allis tractor division, specifically in implements.
Edited by Don(MI) - 14 Jun 2012 at 6:27am |
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Posted: 14 Jun 2012 at 6:47am |
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Posted: 14 Jun 2012 at 7:24am |
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a really neat book book for the die hard would intertwine the Ag div with the rest of Allis history. How often did the ag division carry the rest on its shoulders while the others played with the big marine engines, coal gasification etc. With pictures and product history.
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Posted: 14 Jun 2012 at 9:00am |
Isn't the overall history pretty well covered in An Industrial Heritage, or is there new information and pictures previously unpublished?
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Posted: 14 Jun 2012 at 9:09am |
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There is new stuff and things that haven't been published. |
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Posted: 14 Jun 2012 at 11:10am |
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Posted: 14 Jun 2012 at 11:27am |
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Well, my perspective, I want some more "behind the scenes" information on all Divisions
Tractor Division/proving grounds
Inside scoop on the engine division...more info on the Big AL truck engine
Oxnard plant and implements.....
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Posted: 14 Jun 2012 at 11:38am |
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I have and have read every A-C book known to me. I like the overall history of the other divisions and the politics between the divisions. A detailed book on the Harvey engine plant would be interesting. I would like more info on the 45000 series V-8 and the 61000 and 65000 series V-12 engines. I have a lot of info on other divisions and may be able to help your reaserch if needed.
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Posted: 14 Jun 2012 at 12:38pm |
Do you have an example or two?
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Posted: 14 Jun 2012 at 12:54pm |
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Another vote for Implements. LaPorte works equipment would be good, although Lacrosse might be interesting too.
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Posted: 14 Jun 2012 at 2:21pm |
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I'd like to here from some of the employees, engineers and management that have worked for Allis over the years. It's interesting to hear some of the former employees that post here. It would be nice to get some stories from older employees before their gone. Of course, even the employees from the 1980's are getting older. LOL
I'd like too hear more about what happened when Duetz was failing and how former Allis excutives formed AGCO. It would be nice to have the facts in black and white before AGCO becomes MF and revisionist history completly obliterates the Allis Chalmers roots of the company.
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Posted: 14 Jun 2012 at 3:56pm |
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I've always thought there should be a book titled "The Rise and Fall of a Great American Company." It would cover the great growth of Allis-Chalmers in the 1800's and first half of the 1900's. And then cover the decline in the last half of the 20th century and the reason's it failed.
It would also discuss why the Farm Equipment divisions made some of the product decisions it made in the 40's and later. Those product decisions would include why the odd design of the All-Crops was used even though they had also developed a small straight-through combine; why the WD drop axle design was stayed with so long when the straight axle design of the JD A's and IH M's were around since the late 30's; why the straddle the hot transmission design stuck around so long, etc. I have some theories on the tractor stuff, but they are just theories as I wasn't there then. Chapters on the LTV and the Gulf and Western attempted take-overs and other corporate nonsense would also be included. |
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Posted: 14 Jun 2012 at 11:34pm |
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a third vote for tractors & implements here. also a request for a listing of must have existing books for a newbie's library (besides the manuals, of course). interested in early tractors & implements in general and of course the orange ones in particular.
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Austin(WI) wrote: