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    Posted: 31 Dec 2011 at 1:40pm
AC cotton pickers were built in Gaston, Al. at the same plant were the G tractor was built, this unit is mounted on a D17. the D17 runs backwards, there is no frt end under the engine, it just hangs out the back. The steering tires are in the row dividers. It picked the cotton with spindles that would spin and wind the cotton up on the spindle, picking the cotton out of the boll.
The stripper on the other post was built in the LaPort plant, It used several parts from the F2, cab, engine-433I, transmission and final drives. It strips the complete boll off the plant. The cotton goes thur a stick machine that removes the boll and sticks before blowing it in the basket.  The model of the stripper was an 880 and this one was built in 82.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote injpumpEd Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Dec 2011 at 5:39pm
WOW! The 801/802 were the last of the AC pickers. I have never seen any other AC pickers besides the ones we had when I was a kid. There is a guy on red power forum with an AC 2 row in his avatar pic. really nice to see some pics. 
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Sam, 82 or 62?
 
I have seen several of these over the years. I grew up in upstate SC. Lots of cotton in that area. I parted out one of those and converted it back to a regular 17. I still have several parts and tags from it.
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That looks pretty cool.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Breeze Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Dec 2011 at 5:54pm
SamT, thanks for the pics, sure is a nice looking machine. Lots of cotton around here but Ive never seen one of the AC pickers.  Was the 801 at a show up your way?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote injpumpEd Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Dec 2011 at 6:29pm
Originally posted by D-17_Dave D-17_Dave wrote:

Sam, 82 or 62?
 
I have seen several of these over the years. I grew up in upstate SC. Lots of cotton in that area. I parted out one of those and converted it back to a regular 17. I still have several parts and tags from it.
the 880 stripper would have been from 1982. now the 801 picker would be about 1962.
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Help me out a bit...this picker was built in 82, but used a D17 for the base drivetrain?  There is what...20 years between a D17 and 1982?  I must be misunderstanding something.  Very neat.  Someday I need to get to a show down south to see the different equipment.
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I think Ed has it right. That's kind of what I wanted to point out. I think that's what Sam ment.
 
Very interesting machine. I've had my hands into cotton pickers, tobacco harvesters, potatoe diggers, grape pickers, even poultry loaders. We can build darn near anything but fix our government.
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D17 Dave,  there is nothing wrong with our government that a change in people wouldn't cure.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AllisChalmers37 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Dec 2011 at 8:33pm
I blew the picture up and I'm about positive it is an 801. Very nice machine.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DREAM Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Dec 2011 at 8:45pm
There's some confusion about what Sam said, because he was adding in relation to an earlier post he made. See "spent the day with a stripper" and you'll understand. Sam has a model 880 stripper built in 1982. He was just explaining the difference between that and a picker, which is shown above.
Speaking of which, it seems to me that the stripper would be the way to go, from the looks of his fields. That is the cleanest cotton field i've ever seen that was machine picked. Wonder what the disadvantage is?
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the older pickers are what was built on the reversed D17 chassis. the cotton strippers are component built like a combine. In fact the stripper shares many combine drivetrain components, and steer axle. Strippers are usually used where the cotton is harvested after a freeze. picked cotton fields get picked twice. 
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A lot of the choice between picker or stripper depends on the variaty of the cotton. I've seen a stripper sitting on the testing campus of Clemson University. This unit had the header modified for use in the Carolina's. Basicly they replaced the row head with something like 3/4" angle iron on a slant about 1/2" apart all the way across. This allowed for use on a smaller cotton bowl and didn't require planting it an a spaced row. Force of forward motion pushed the bowls up the 20 or so inches of angle into a feeded auger like a grain head. Never seemed to catch on. I think the humid climate and how hard it was to "pop" the bowl off the stalk had something to do with this fact.
 
The pickers used tapered stainless spinning spindles on a rotating group to pass by a cotton stalk and spin the cotton off the stalk. As the rotating group spun the spindle group out of the plant row it passed by a water nozel and a rubber "doffer" pad rubed the cotton off the spindle and dropped it into an airflow to be pushed into the basket.
 
A real maintinance nightmare. All the thousands of moving parts and the buckets of grease it would take to run one. My first job was tearing pickers apart and rebuilding them for a local friends company.
 
I got to see several companies mounted picker conversions. Deere, IH, and AC were the only ones I know of that ventured into R&D on pickers and made anything. Most I saw were piggy backed onto a regular tractor chassis. Although built on WD45 and D-17 chassis I think AC was the first to actually make a picker with the intent of leaving it as a dedicated machine. I think they were also the first to do 2 row unit. This is simply way ahead of anyone else at the time. These 2 row units took lots of power to run and that's why AC built the first with 226 gas engines and soon after placed 262 gas and diesel engines in the pickers.
Most of the Deere and IH pickers I saw that were tractor based were tractors with a lot of external linkages and brackets bolting it up to a base tractor. Not all that hard to remove so the base tractor could be used year round. Although the AC's were 17 based I don't think they were made to use as regular tractors as they took a lot of work to convert. I used a lot of parts off a donor tractor when I converted mine. I seem to recall somewhere reading something about AC offering a kit to do this conversion after the technology outdated these pickers. Maybe in Norm Swinfords book of knowledge or something. Although bulky and underpowered, these were really well built units. Wish I'd have took pictures of all that when I had the chance. Economics of the time I had to sell that 17. But, I think I had a 17 with the fewest number of hrs on it anywhere. lol
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