traction booster

I did not get to plow with the D-15. Did plow with the 45 however. Of course I'm used to using the T-booster on it and it worked great as usual. Dirt was like concrete, it always is at this show. I'll get the 15 to a plow day somewhere this year.

Was that supposed to be sarcasm?

It is important to have the "rate-of drop" screw underneath the sediment bowl adjusted correctly for the best performance. You don't want the drop rate too fast or it will hunt up and down all the time. Big coil spring adjustment and this are covered in the Operators manual.

Tbone95 wrote: victoryallis wrote: Likely the worst idea Allis had. Some think it’s so great because it raises the implement if the tire slips all it does is cover for a poor operator. Macon compared it to traction control an equally stupid idea in a vehicle if I start to spin or have deep snow ahead I disable TC I can control it better. I like how on my Deere 3pt only has one lever and still get full range of motion. Every Deere I’ve run that’s newer than 1970 and older than 2005 has a 4 position lever to select how much “draft help” you want. Have run a 2006 small Deere with 2 levers beside each other, one for height one for adjustable help.

the one thing the allis chalmers traction booster with the snap coupler does that the rest do not do is sense the pull on the drawbar to raise a load on a drawbar pulled implemnt

As it should. With the TBoost lever fully to the rear, the lift arms do raise a certain distance, which is outlined in the Operators manual. The TBoost lever on 100 series and newer is a depth control/position control with weight transfer built into it. You set the depth of the front bottom on a semi-mounted plow with it and the weight transfer is automatic from there. If you think the weight transfer is slow or lacking in performance, there is an adjustment to the immediate right of the PTO shield. Remove the quick pin and place the linkage in the LONG hole at the top of the arm. Try that first and see how it works.

Allis dave wrote: Tbone95 wrote:   Every Deere I’ve run that’s newer than 1970 and older than 2005 has a 4 position lever to select how much “draft help” you want. Have run a 2006 small Deere with 2 levers beside each other, one for height one for adjustable help. I've never seen a 4 position draft lever to select how much help you need. The one by my foot just slides and you grab a knob, not a lever. I don't remember there being positions to it, but maybe there were some detents. I only messed with them a few times to select lift height

Well, it’s not like I’ve ran a dozen different models. The ones I’ve seen are like I say, a lever behind / beside your right foot, moves vertically, notches for positions. It’s like a mix of height control versus load control. According to the manual of a JD plow I bought from the 90’s era, the bigger 55 series tractors like a 4555 or whatever looks like it has a knob you turn on the side console for the same purpose, to mix how much level versus draft response.

An old Massey we had, you used 2 different levers beside each other on a quadrant right of the seat. 1 for level control, the other if you wanted a draft load response.

It doesn’t really matter, the point is the same basic concept, at least for the desired result, has been done across many brands for decades.

Allis dave wrote: Never saw that, the Deere 30, 40, and 50 series a run just have a single lever up and down. Then down on the side of the console by your right foot there is a slide to adjust for draft control. 10 and 20 series have an electronic switch for up and down + a dial to adjust your deptch. There's probably somehting for draft control in the electronics but I never tried to set it up. Stuff's so big now, you don't spin.

Never saw what? You said you never saw it then literally described the thing by your right foot.

Or did you mean the second lever by the height lever? This is on the Indian Nightmare 5303. A small tractor, have only messed with it once on a blading job and it didn’t do much of anything.

victoryallis wrote: Likely the worst idea Allis had. Some think it’s so great because it raises the implement if the tire slips all it does is cover for a poor operator. Macon compared it to traction control an equally stupid idea in a vehicle if I start to spin or have deep snow ahead I disable TC I can control it better. I like how on my Deere 3pt only has one lever and still get full range of motion.

Every Deere I’ve run that’s newer than 1970 and older than 2005 has a 4 position lever to select how much “draft help” you want. Have run a 2006 small Deere with 2 levers beside each other, one for height one for adjustable help.

you have to remember  that all these parts and linkages have waer now rods are wore holes are wore, and have been for how many years.  total up all those wore out spots  and its like pulling up the slack on atow chain.   i did my wd45 afew years ago when i had it in for a hand clutch made allthe hitch controls nice and tight and guess what it works better than i ever remember  , the draft control on allmost all the brands of older tractors dont work so sweet anymore

I've found (in 1981) that the Traction Booster linkage on a 7010 and bigger doesn't seem to work as well as older 100 series systems. I had a customer complaint on a 7045 under warranty and had to address it. His farm was quite hilly in places and he noticed the Traction Booster just didn't seem to respond like he was used to. I think he has a 200 or 190XT that he had traded in on the 7045. Anyway, on the front of the 3-point valve spool is a capsule with a spring inside of it. I assumed the spring was protection for the 3pt valve spool in case there was a shock load to the hitch. I had determined that this spring needed some help, as it was yielding before the spool was being activated. It was quite a chore, but i added some flat washers to that spring capsule, which solved his complaint. Now, I'll be the first to admit by 1981 in my world, moldboard plowing had pretty much gone away. Any other customer who complained (and they were few) I drilled a new hole in the vertical linkage arm under the PTO valve to quicken/lengthen the linkage action from the torsion bar. This was waaaay easier to do (15 minutes) and seemed to accomplish the same results.

DrAllis wrote: What model ??  I've always altered the sensing linkage on 7010's and up to make them work better.

7045.

So it’s awesome, but needs altering

Used the one on the 185 plowing last fall, seemed to work Okay. Not as dramatic as the 45 though. Of course, pulling 48 inches of plow with a 45 vs. 54" with the 185 may have colored that a bit!

What model ??  I've always altered the sensing linkage on 7010's and up to make them work better.

Think of it as

"TRACTION CONTROL"

when using tillage equip.

if tractor tires start to slip, equip is raised to transfer weight on rear tires.

Simple !

Edited by Macon Rounds - 01 Aug 2023 at 2:38pm