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Are NAPA 7011 oil filters really that bad? |
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AC7060IL
Orange Level Joined: 19 Aug 2012 Location: central IL Points: 3213 |
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Agreed about the Napa stores. I haven’t patronized them for probably 5 years now? I’ve tried. But other like Carquest, Advanced Auto, OReillys, has been more competitive. 20 years ago, my local Napa store manager offered me a constant 40% discount if I opened an account that spent a minimum of $500 annually. That disappeared about 5 yrs ago.
I believe Mann-Hummel of South Carolina mfg many prominent US oil filters( Napa, Wix, Purolator, etc) Mann-Hummel purchased Wix filters May 4, 2016. https://wixeurope.com/en/company/news/we-are-part-of-the-mann-hummel-group#:~:text=On%20May%204%2C%202016%2C%20Wix,and%20all%20types%20of%20machines. |
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im4racin
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Depends on what part of the us you are in. Some areas are wix and some are Donaldson
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nella(Pa)
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CTuckerNWIL
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NW Illinois Points: 22810 |
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I've never used anything but Fram C159 filters on my tractors. They are the only filter made that didn't switch to the pleated paper back when AGCO and Wix sold the ones that ruined engines.
They also are totally unrelated to the poor quality Fram filters for full lube systems. |
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Codger
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Ed (Ont)
Orange Level Joined: 08 Nov 2009 Location: New Lowell, Ont Points: 1224 |
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The Napa gold filters are made by Wix. Not sure about the cheaper lines.
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steve(ill)
Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: illinois Points: 78102 |
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As you run the engine, the filter will eventually start to plug and RESTRICT oil flow thru it.. A NEW filter might be a couple letters LOWER on the NORMAL scale.. That is fine, and acceptable... If you prefer, you can leave the ORIGINAL FILTER on longer.. all you are doing is cutting down on the BYPASS oil that is FILTERED and allowing more oil to go to LUBE the engine..
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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steve(ill)
Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: illinois Points: 78102 |
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20 years ago WIX made some filters that had no restriction.. All the oil went to the BYPASS back to the crank case.. NO OIL or LOW OIL was flowing thru the lube passages internally... A few motors locked up due to loss of pressure.. WIX redesigned the filters and they have been OK for the past 10- 15 years or more..... And NAPA does buy that filter from WIX..... Their NEW filters are fine to use..
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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resurrection20
Bronze Level Joined: 14 Nov 2023 Location: Oregon Points: 77 |
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These ones are like that, too. You can price check online and the stores have different markups? Or something. I don't like that. |
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jaybmiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Greensville,Ont Points: 21587 |
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What's really crazy, is that even though a 'chain'.... the 3 stores near me have 3 DIFFERENT prices for the SAME item !
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resurrection20
Bronze Level Joined: 14 Nov 2023 Location: Oregon Points: 77 |
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In my very small town, there's just the one store- NAPA and they give a 20 percent discount for AAA members. All the NAPAs around me are part of locally owned chain of like 10 franchises or something and their main store is in the state capital, so I feel like I'm spending money locally. They're fairly competitively priced. There is an O'Reilly's in the next town over that's usually cheaper, but I've found NAPA parts to be of better fit and quality. And yeah, there's always online. RockAuto is awesome...except the FedEx shipping costs are insane, lol.
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jaybmiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Greensville,Ont Points: 21587 |
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yup, I bought 3 wixes online for less than ONE at the local NAPA that is 7 minutes from me.
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WF owner
Orange Level Joined: 12 May 2013 Location: Bombay NY Points: 4431 |
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NAPA USED to be a good place to buy decent parts at a competitive price.
I recently stopped in at our local NAPA to buy a NAPA Gold oil filter for my truck (2021 F-350 Powerstroke). I was told over $60 was "my price" which is supposed to be a discount. I came home and ordered 2 Motorcraft (original equipment) for $18.99 each from Amazon. I now have filters for 2 oil changes for less than the price of one NAPA Gold filter.
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resurrection20
Bronze Level Joined: 14 Nov 2023 Location: Oregon Points: 77 |
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And NAPA cost $10 more. Highway robbery.
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rms61moparman(Ky)
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Yes WAY! Mike
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resurrection20
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Hahaha! No way! |
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dkattau
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NAPA filters are made by Wix.
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resurrection20
Bronze Level Joined: 14 Nov 2023 Location: Oregon Points: 77 |
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My "B" came with a NAPA filter on it. The guy I got it from owned it for 40 years. I just kept using NAPA filters because why rock the boat?
However, I was reading another thread on this forum (too old to reply to) and people were saying the NAPA ones weren't tightly wound and the oil pressure would be low. My last NAPA filter, my oil pressure was on the "A" in "NORMAL" and on my current NAPA filter it's on the "O." Makes me wonder. I did order a Wix I could put on right now. |
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