This site is not affiliated with AGCO Inc., Duluth GA., Allis-Chalmers Co., Milwaukee, WI., or any surviving or related corporate entity. All trademarks remain the property of their respective owners. All information presented herein should be considered the result of an un-moderated public forum with no responsibility for its accuracy or usability assumed by the users and sponsors of this site or any corporate entity.
The Forum Parts and Services Unofficial Allis Store Tractor Shows Serial Numbers History
Forum Home Forum Home > Allis Chalmers > Farm Equipment
  New Posts New Posts
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login


Are NAPA 7011 oil filters really that bad?

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <12
Author
Message Reverse Sort Order
AC7060IL View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 19 Aug 2012
Location: central IL
Points: 3213
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AC7060IL Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Mar 2024 at 6:51pm
Agreed about the Napa stores. I haven’t patronized them for probably 5 years now? I’ve tried. But other like Carquest, Advanced Auto, OReillys, has been more competitive. 20 years ago, my local Napa store manager offered me a constant 40% discount if I opened an account that spent a minimum of $500 annually. That disappeared about 5 yrs ago.

I believe Mann-Hummel of South Carolina mfg many prominent US oil filters( Napa, Wix, Purolator, etc) Mann-Hummel purchased Wix filters May 4, 2016.

https://wixeurope.com/en/company/news/we-are-part-of-the-mann-hummel-group#:~:text=On%20May%204%2C%202016%2C%20Wix,and%20all%20types%20of%20machines.
Back to Top
Sponsored Links


Back to Top
im4racin View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level


Joined: 12 Jun 2017
Location: Garrison ND
Points: 844
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote im4racin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Mar 2024 at 6:34pm
Depends on what part of the us you are in. Some areas are wix and some are Donaldson 
Back to Top
nella(Pa) View Drop Down
Orange Level Access
Orange Level Access


Joined: 11 Sep 2009
Location: Allentown, Pa.
Points: 3086
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote nella(Pa) Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Mar 2024 at 6:15pm
Originally posted by Ed (Ont) Ed (Ont) wrote:

The Napa gold filters are made by Wix. Not sure about the cheaper lines. 

X2

Back to Top
CTuckerNWIL View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 11 Sep 2009
Location: NW Illinois
Points: 22810
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote CTuckerNWIL Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Mar 2024 at 6:09pm
I've never used anything but Fram C159 filters on my tractors. They are the only filter made that didn't switch to the pleated paper back when AGCO and Wix sold the ones that ruined engines. 
 They also are totally unrelated to the poor quality Fram filters for full lube systems.
http://www.ae-ta.com
Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF
Back to Top
Codger View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 23 Dec 2020
Location: Illinois
Points: 1820
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Codger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Mar 2024 at 6:05pm
Wink


Edited by Codger - 18 Mar 2024 at 6:37pm
A career built on repairing and improving engineering design deficiencies, shortcomings, and failures over 50 years now.
Back to Top
Ed (Ont) View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 08 Nov 2009
Location: New Lowell, Ont
Points: 1224
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ed (Ont) Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Mar 2024 at 6:04pm
The Napa gold filters are made by Wix. Not sure about the cheaper lines. 
Back to Top
steve(ill) View Drop Down
Orange Level Access
Orange Level Access
Avatar

Joined: 11 Sep 2009
Location: illinois
Points: 78102
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote steve(ill) Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Mar 2024 at 6:00pm
As you run the engine, the filter will eventually start to plug and RESTRICT oil flow thru it.. A NEW filter might be a couple letters LOWER on the NORMAL scale.. That is fine, and acceptable... If you prefer, you can leave the ORIGINAL FILTER on longer.. all you are doing is cutting down on the BYPASS oil that is FILTERED and allowing more oil to go to LUBE the engine..
Like them all, but love the "B"s.
Back to Top
steve(ill) View Drop Down
Orange Level Access
Orange Level Access
Avatar

Joined: 11 Sep 2009
Location: illinois
Points: 78102
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote steve(ill) Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Mar 2024 at 5:57pm
20 years ago WIX made some filters that had no restriction.. All the oil went to the BYPASS back to the crank case.. NO OIL or LOW OIL was flowing thru the lube passages internally... A few motors locked up due to loss of pressure.. WIX redesigned the filters and they have been OK for the past 10- 15 years or more..... And NAPA does buy that filter from WIX..... Their NEW filters are fine to use..
Like them all, but love the "B"s.
Back to Top
resurrection20 View Drop Down
Bronze Level
Bronze Level
Avatar

Joined: 14 Nov 2023
Location: Oregon
Points: 77
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote resurrection20 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Mar 2024 at 5:35pm
Originally posted by jaybmiller jaybmiller wrote:

What's really crazy, is that even though a 'chain'.... the 3 stores near me have 3 DIFFERENT prices for the SAME item !


These ones are like that, too. You can price check online and the stores have different markups? Or something. I don't like that.
Back to Top
jaybmiller View Drop Down
Orange Level Access
Orange Level Access


Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Location: Greensville,Ont
Points: 21587
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jaybmiller Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Mar 2024 at 5:32pm
What's really crazy, is that even though a 'chain'.... the 3 stores near me have 3 DIFFERENT prices for the SAME item !
3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)

Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water
Back to Top
resurrection20 View Drop Down
Bronze Level
Bronze Level
Avatar

Joined: 14 Nov 2023
Location: Oregon
Points: 77
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote resurrection20 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Mar 2024 at 5:29pm
In my very small town, there's just the one store- NAPA and they give a 20 percent discount for AAA members. All the NAPAs around me are part of locally owned chain of like 10 franchises or something and their main store is in the state capital, so I feel like I'm spending money locally. They're fairly competitively priced. There is an O'Reilly's in the next town over that's usually cheaper, but I've found NAPA parts to be of better fit and quality. And yeah, there's always online. RockAuto is awesome...except the FedEx shipping costs are insane, lol.

Edited by resurrection20 - 18 Mar 2024 at 5:31pm
Back to Top
jaybmiller View Drop Down
Orange Level Access
Orange Level Access


Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Location: Greensville,Ont
Points: 21587
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jaybmiller Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Mar 2024 at 5:20pm
yup, I bought 3 wixes online for less than ONE at the local NAPA that is 7 minutes from me.
3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)

Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water
Back to Top
WF owner View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level


Joined: 12 May 2013
Location: Bombay NY
Points: 4431
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote WF owner Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Mar 2024 at 5:10pm
NAPA USED to be a good place to buy decent parts at a competitive price. 

I recently stopped in at our local NAPA to buy a NAPA Gold oil filter for my truck (2021 F-350 Powerstroke). I was told over $60 was "my price" which is supposed to be a discount. I came home and ordered 2 Motorcraft (original equipment) for $18.99 each from Amazon. I now have filters for 2 oil changes for less than the price of one NAPA Gold filter.
Back to Top
resurrection20 View Drop Down
Bronze Level
Bronze Level
Avatar

Joined: 14 Nov 2023
Location: Oregon
Points: 77
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote resurrection20 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Mar 2024 at 4:56pm
And NAPA cost $10 more. Highway robbery.
Back to Top
rms61moparman(Ky) View Drop Down
Bronze Level
Bronze Level
Avatar

Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Location: Kentucky
Points: 63
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote rms61moparman(Ky) Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Mar 2024 at 4:54pm
Originally posted by resurrection20 resurrection20 wrote:

Originally posted by dkattau dkattau wrote:

NAPA filters are made by Wix.


Hahaha! No way!


Yes WAY!


Mike
Back to Top
resurrection20 View Drop Down
Bronze Level
Bronze Level
Avatar

Joined: 14 Nov 2023
Location: Oregon
Points: 77
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote resurrection20 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Mar 2024 at 4:48pm
Originally posted by dkattau dkattau wrote:

NAPA filters are made by Wix.


Hahaha! No way!
Back to Top
dkattau View Drop Down
Silver Level
Silver Level


Joined: 20 Mar 2011
Location: Nebraska
Points: 251
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dkattau Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Mar 2024 at 4:39pm
NAPA filters are made by Wix.
Back to Top
resurrection20 View Drop Down
Bronze Level
Bronze Level
Avatar

Joined: 14 Nov 2023
Location: Oregon
Points: 77
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote resurrection20 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Mar 2024 at 4:34pm
My "B" came with a NAPA filter on it. The guy I got it from owned it for 40 years. I just kept using NAPA filters because why rock the boat?

However, I was reading another thread on this forum (too old to reply to) and people were saying the NAPA ones weren't tightly wound and the oil pressure would be low.

My last NAPA filter, my oil pressure was on the "A" in "NORMAL" and on my current NAPA filter it's on the "O." Makes me wonder. I did order a Wix I could put on right now.
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <12
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 11.10
Copyright ©2001-2017 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 0.031 seconds.


Help Support the
Unofficial Allis Forum