Running with choke on

WF owner wrote: Ethanol has sort of a natural cleaning effect, so it may have actually cleaned the carburetor out a bit. If you are using the tractor every day, running ethanol isn't a problem, except it tends to deteriorate rubber parts.  The biggest problem with ethanol in old engines is when it sits for extended periods.

I usually drain everything and run the carbs dry. When I can't, I use Sta-Bil and have never had any problems.

plummerscarin wrote: Sooo…was your supply of 92 small engine gas from last year?

If was less than a week old. I got it to start mowing the lawn.

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Edited by steve(ill) - 21 Mar 2024 at 3:37pm

Sooo…was your supply of 92 small engine gas from last year?

steve(ill) wrote: Some inline filters have a RESTRICTION or a CHECK VALVE that takes a couple PSI to open... You want the OLD FASHION filter that is gravity feed and zero restriction.

I...had no idea. That explains that brand new Wix not doing me any favors.

The old, partially plugged filter was actually helping me by restricting flow.

Edited by resurrection20 - 19 Mar 2024 at 8:16pm

Some inline filters have a RESTRICTION or a CHECK VALVE that takes a couple PSI to open... You want the OLD FASHION filter that is gravity feed and zero restriction.

as the LEVEL Gets too high, the gas runs over the top lip into the throttle bore area and gets sucked into the motor for uncontrolled gas flow.... BLACK smoke is Excess fuel.

Weeeeeeeelll, things are worse now. I flushed out the tank. Cleaned all the fuel lines.

I found out the problem was my filter. My old one was clogged and I had a newer Wix one that when you blow through it, air comes out, but as soon as you put it in line, nothing goes in. I swapped filters with my lawn mower. The mower is now fuel-starved and sad.

With the lawnmower filter on the tractor, plenty of fuel comes out the bottom of the carb bowl. More coming through than could possibly be burnt?

However if you leave the fuel turned on for 30 seconds, it'll be coming out the sides of the carburetor like crazy.

You have to drain the bowl to get it to start and then start it immediately after turning the fuel on.

It still stumbles, but now it backfires.

It still only runs with the choke full on, but now the smoke is black and stinks. Before you couldn't smell it.

It seems to have a little more power and oil pressure is better. It's much worse for the operator in terms of air quality and the exhaust pipe is turning black around the top like a diesel would, lol.

I tried to use the fuel shutoff valve to limit how much gas goes in, but didn't have much success.

My guess is that now it's too rich: Float is stuck or the needle and seat are worn.

If gas is coming out the side of the carb, that means air can get in, too?

Edited by resurrection20 - 19 Mar 2024 at 5:56pm

sounds like your about it get it FIXED.... Spare "parts' inside the gas tank are never a good thing !! 

This is what my girl has been up to. I'm a SAHP to 22-month-old twin boys, lol. It's so hard to keep on top of stuff.

resurrection20 wrote: Inside, there are two black pieces of crap right by the tank outlet. I think I might have made a mistake in that I used an old Teflon pot to catch the fuel...they look like black Teflon and the pot itself is in bad shape. In which case, I need Engvall to give me my sign.

that looks like a good flow... assuming there is nothing FLOATING inside the tank to plug it at random times..

yep... unscrew the stand tube and then blow thru the cap or fill it with a hose, etc... and FLUSH out anything that is in the tank..

wade89 wrote: If the air filter isn’t hooked up, you can try temporarily choking it with your hand while the the engine is running and revved up. It’ll suck your hand to the throat and pretty much die, then you pull your hand off quick and she’ll rev back up. Repeat that process a couple times and you may get lucky where she’ll suck the blockage through. Trick I learned from Grandpa to get my B through the day raking hay on a rough field. If the carbs been apart any time recently, it’s only about a 20 minute job to take it off and spray her out with cleaner without installing a new kit. Seem to have to do one every year in the hayfield on the tailgate of the truck. Either way a good cleaning is in your future along with probably lining the tank when you get the time.

I forgot about this trick! I did it on a pickup that I buried to the windshield in mud being a stupid kid. Ah, to be young. Very expensive.