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CTuckerNWIL
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NW Illinois Points: 22810 |
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Posted: 15 Nov 2010 at 7:03pm |
Bob, I have 3 left over cornbread muffins and plan on having them for breakfast with some of Warren's squeezin's on em.
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Bob D. (La)
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Warren, Sure is good over hot biscuits. Yum, Yum. Thanks again. God Bless.
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Warren(Oh)
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Jackson, Ohio Points: 1127 |
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Sorry Lanny, been busy ( had to go back to work !) Yes, $18.40 for the trip, $18 if you just want to send cash. Got to get signs made and try to get it all sold ! Thanks
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LannyMTN
Silver Level Joined: 22 Aug 2010 Location: Middle TN Points: 120 |
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So, with the ride, a quart cost $18.40.
Lanny
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Jim Lindemood
Orange Level Joined: 22 Sep 2009 Location: Dry Ridge, KY Points: 2569 |
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Warren, actually thought I might try and swing by this year but other stuff happened. Maybe I can make it out that way next year -- ya never know.
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Warren(Oh)
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Jackson, Ohio Points: 1127 |
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Jim, I think you ought to come help next year ! Cincy ain't that far away, we'll feed ya' !
It was a lot of experimentaion, seeing how things do and work or don't work. Biggest thing needed is a new furnace, second being a pan. We can build the furnace given time. Would rather someone else makes the pan, personally. I would like to try one a foot narrower and the sections wider and deeper but I don't know if I can convince everyone else to go along with it.
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Jim Lindemood
Orange Level Joined: 22 Sep 2009 Location: Dry Ridge, KY Points: 2569 |
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Of course there will be a next year. Now that you have gone through all the experiment phase, you have it all figured out and can breeze through it -- oh, forgot you still have to plant, cultivate, strip, harvest, press, evaporate and things like that -- LOL.
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Warren(Oh)
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Jackson, Ohio Points: 1127 |
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Chalmersbob, yes the cane is planted in rows just like corn. I did cultivate it with the G this spring and also sprayed it with Weed B Gone, still had jimsom, pig weed and cockleburrs but not as bad as they would have been. Hope to get a better job cultivating next year (if there is a next year ! Lot of work !) so the spray won't be needed but there are a lot of weed seeds in the ground, it likely will be needed. We hope to have a pto driven corn binder for next year. Guy I work with says he has one way in the back of one of his barns that we can have if we can get it out !
Pat, sent you a PM. Asking $7 a quart. Priority mail medium USPS box costs $11.40 with Delivery Confirmation. I'll have to buy more bubble wrap if anyone else wants it by mail. Thanks
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Pat the Plumber CIL
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Springfield,Il Points: 4677 |
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How much for a Quart Warren? Thanks for all the photos and videos.I can barely remember my family helping a nieghbor squeeze and cook and jar molasses(They would split up the booty afterward).The sights,sounds and smells bring back a lot of memories.
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Chalmersbob
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Pennsylvania Points: 2122 |
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WARREN, Thank you for sharing your pictures with us. I found it to be very interesting.
It sure was a lot of work getting everything set up. It looks like you plant the can in rows like corn. Do you cultivate it also? Does it have to be cut by hand? can't you cut it by machine? It great to see the whole family working together at the project. Bob
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Jim Lindemood
Orange Level Joined: 22 Sep 2009 Location: Dry Ridge, KY Points: 2569 |
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Wow -- that has been a lot of work -- but so NEAT! Not many folks around that can say they have done that. I did not realize how much juice would come from the cane. Looks like a pretty good flow out of the mill. Find the whole process amazing. Thanks for sharing your experience.
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Bob D. (La)
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Louisiana Points: 25529 |
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Gosh Warren, something must be wrong. Alsmost lookslike ya'll know what your doing. Glad it went well and all the hard work getting your new mill running has now paid off. God Bless.
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Warren(Oh)
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Jackson, Ohio Points: 1127 |
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As promised, here is video of our sorghum maiking. This will likely be the last installment on this thread. I'd like to thank everyone who has viewed it and posted a response.
First video is the start of day 2, engine started fairly easy after warming it up a bit with a small space heater. Cane moved into place, lines thawed out.
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Second video shows the back of my head and me feeding stalks into the mill. I was barely keeping up with what the mill can handle. Right after I stopped the camera, the belt slipped and I had to shut it down and tighten the belt. Next year belt tightening will be a much simpler process but it's 6 bolts and a lever now ! He'll kill me again !!
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Third is a lull in the squeezing while getting the cooking started. We left the pan full of water the day before and they chased it out as juice flowed in.
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Hope everyone has enjoyed this, thanks for watching.
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Warren(Oh)
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JZ, the gears wouldn't be anything next to getting them in the rollers. A 1 1/2 inch stalk going in comes out nearly 6 inches wide ! The juice just pours.
Jim, it is alot of work and fun but a lot is relief that the thing works and does what it's supposed to.
We got about a third of the cane run today. It's slow work with only 4 people. I fed the mill most of the day, it's a bit tall for everyone else to comfortably feed. By the time I got the trailer empty, the 100 gallon tank was full all while they were taking from it cooking. Took another couple hours to cook off and clean up before calling it a day. This may even carry over to next weekend because I won't likely get another day off but I've got Monday off ! I will be sure to have my camera tomorrow, walked right out without it today.
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Jim Lindemood
Orange Level Joined: 22 Sep 2009 Location: Dry Ridge, KY Points: 2569 |
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Looks like you are about ready to go. In the first picture - the chickens appear to be helping move the thing -- slave labor, LOL. The projects some of you guys take on just amaze me. You have done a lot of work on this one, still looks like fun.
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Jeff Z. NY
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Wouldn't want to get my finger in those gears.
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Warren(Oh)
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Jackson, Ohio Points: 1127 |
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This has been one long road but the sorghum should flow, or ooze, tomorrow. The rain Friday hampered efforts to be ready today but everything is in place now. Sorry there isn't any video of me pulling the mill wagon into place with my G but here are a few pix showing them hooked together. The wagon probably out weighs the G 3 to 1 but it did ok on mostly level ground. The belt had to be tightened up quite a bit on the mill after using it to run the saw but I think it is tight enough now. Got to make a crank tightener to keep the belt tight. You can see the corner jacks in use and the oilers too. Got to get to bed, another short night !
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Jim-Tea
Bronze Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Tea,SD Points: 23 |
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Warren I would check with the local hospital for a S.Steel table or tank. They use them for awhile and then toss them out or the maintance shop gets them.
Jim
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Warren(Oh)
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Jackson, Ohio Points: 1127 |
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Mill wagon is finally finished. Added 5000lb trailer tongue jacks to each corner. Steadies it up nice. Got the engine turned around and belted to the cut off saw. Got to get a few bundles of slabs now. Pix later.
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Warren(Oh)
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Few more pix of the cutting process, video would be about as exciting as watching paint dry ! haha
First pic after about 2 hours of cutting, 2 cutters.
Shot of trailer,
After another couple hours of just me cutting
Close up of trailer
About half way through, got to work tomorrow, should finish cutting tomorrow afternoon. I have 2 20x20 canvas tarps that we cover it with till it gets mashed. That should happen the first week of November, I took the whole week off ! Just got a little more to finish up on the mill wagon, I bought 5000lb jack stands to put on each corner, got to weld the plate on them so they can be bolted to the main frame and it will be ready. Oh, we got a cut off saw at auction last week, the engine will get turned around to run the saw. Gonna get slabs to fire the cook fire with ! So much work, only one me ! Good night.
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Bob D. (La)
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Louisiana Points: 25529 |
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Warren, Pm me your address also and I get the $7:00 plus shipping in the mail to you. Would love to help,but it seems a long drive for me. LOL God Bless.
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CTuckerNWIL
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NW Illinois Points: 22810 |
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Warren, I bent up some 1/2 emt once with a regular conduit bender. I used them on my old wagon so I could fill it with fire wood cover with a cheap plastic tarp. It took a while but wasn't too hard to do. The PVC might be the way to go. Maybe build a jig so you can get them all the same and you would have a place for them to cool.
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ACD19farmboy
Silver Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Missouri Points: 160 |
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We have allready made one batch of molasis-sourgum this year, good stuff!! lol and we have about 6 cane mills lying around but use only 2 of them!!
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Dusty MI
Orange Level Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Charlotte, Mi Points: 5053 |
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Warren, I think I would use PVC conduit for the bows. One could use a heat gun to form the bows. Should not be too hard to do.
Dusty
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Warren(Oh)
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Jackson, Ohio Points: 1127 |
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Thanks Rawleigh, I know about the brass oilers from hit-miss engines but they are pricey. I found 4 sight feed oilers on ebay and got them for $37 total. However, I like to make stuff and that home made oiler would be right up my alley ! I had been thinking of making one but hadn't decided on a valve for it. Thanks for the link.
Charlie, where as I would appreciate the help, willing buyers would be fine too. I'm thinking $7 a jar plus shipping. Hope this doesn't come back to bite me !! haha
I got off work early today, got 3 more rows finished today. Admittedly, one was shorter and much thinner planted. 8 more rows to finish it, then I'm thinking of heading it before cutting, need a feed sack hanger to go around my waist....
Had to have a bit of fun with the pictures, I didn't think of that, I usually forget to take in progress shots. I'm thinking of making bows, like covered wagon bows, to hold a tarp for storage of the whole contraption. Anyone able to bend, say, 3/4 inch metal conduit for a smooth bow, 5 feet wide !?
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Rawleigh
Orange Level Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: White Stone, VA Points: 421 |
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Cheap drip oiler:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-ZkJ8EqhzE Fancy oiler: http://www.tias.com/8600/PictPage/1922374464.html Edited by Rawleigh - 11 Oct 2010 at 3:43pm |
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CTuckerNWIL
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NW Illinois Points: 22810 |
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Warren, with all the work you have done so far, it looks like you are ready to do some squeezing. People might see a demonstration at a show and have no idea of the work involved in growing and preparing the cane, let alone restoring the equipment.
I'm ready to taste the finished product and I haven't lifted a finger to help. LOL Charlie |
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Jim Lindemood
Orange Level Joined: 22 Sep 2009 Location: Dry Ridge, KY Points: 2569 |
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Looks like ya got it under control now -- better get stripping - LOL
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Bob D. (La)
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Looks good Warren. Thought maybe it would have been easier to just buy another engine with the belt pulley on the right side. LOL God Bless.
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Warren(Oh)
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Time for some more pix, should be in bed, though so I'll likely mess up !
First a shot of the cane I've gotten stripped.
Then a shot of whats left !
I've finished the top row of cane, was getting mighty warm so I went to work on the mill wagon. Here we are ready to slid the engine out of my Dakota. The shocks let out a sigh of relief when it finally came out.
Something just isn't quite right.
Nope, still not right.
That's looking better, still needs lined up a bit.
After a couple hours of fastening down the boards under the engine and straping the engine down, we just had to crank it over. Nothing happened ! Cleaned the carb and she fired on half a crank ! All I was doing was turning the belt to see if it was in line and it started ! See video below. I got to get to bed, 3:30 will be here long before I'm ready for it ! Enjoy.
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