Got another B with mower

Dragged another B home.  Runs great, mows great!  The mower deck looks really nice!  Came with new blades, new belt, all the correct Woods guards, manuals for everything, and tune up parts.  A few things need to be addressed.  It's missing the oiler line for the governor and the fuel is plumbed weird.  Even the rear wheels are tight.  I've never seen these front wheels before.  Nice.  Came out of Minnesota.  Anybody familiar with this business?
Best,
Steve

With no number stamped on to the engine, it is usually an indication that the engine (or block itself) was changed at some point in its life.  Just a run of the mill B in my opinion, nothing special about it.  Decent looking tractor though.

Nice score!

NICE LOOKING B.  You were lucky to get a pre war B.  There were some things on them - the front wheels, the engine serial number - that were quite different from the Post War units.

That's where I have a number stamp, I also have one on the trans. My number 19628.

So does she have a name yet?

Jon B
I thought your B Tractor Number on the Tranny was B9628
Steve
Nice B Probably a composite of several different Bs to make one. The front wheels with the hubs riveted to the centers were used on new Bs for most of the 38/39 models
The engine SN numbers Were Stamped into the top back of the block up until early 1940. Very early short arm, hand brake Cs with the CE engine were stamped into the back of the block also.
All in all a ordinary combination of different year B parts to make a not so rare one of a kind B. It is absolutely amazing how complete Bs can be built from pieces from every year Bs were built.
Remember the "Build a B" project at the Haymaker AC museum where forum members like myself donated and gathered B parts from all years along with some C parts and a gang of guys lead by Richard Akin built a B in one day assembling all the different parts. Talk about a Frankin B. This one was one for the book. I understand it was retired from the museum collection and now lives with Richard Akin who donated the complete engine.
We got to do this Build a B thing again sometime. This time we need to put in writing what the future of the built B will be after the fun is over. I would like to see a Year/Model like a War B on Steel come together from donated parts to go into a Museum



Edited by Ken in Texas - 27 Aug 2016 at 4:46pm

Creston
A forum member makes and sells a BIG wrench for those odd nuts or you can cut them off and buy new hex nuts from Fastenal

Ken in Texas wrote: Jon B I thought your B Tractor Number on the Tranny was B9628 Steve Nice B Probably a composite of several different Bs to make one. The front wheels with the hubs riveted to the centers were used on new Bs for most of the 38/39 models The engine SN numbers Were Stamped into the top back of the block up until early 1940. Very early short arm, hand brake Cs with the CE engine were stamped into the back of the block also. All in all a ordinary combination of different year B parts to make a not so rare one of a kind B. It is absolutely amazing how complete Bs can be built from pieces from every year Bs were built. Remember the "Build a B" project at the Haymaker AC museum where forum members like myself donated and gathered B parts from all years along with some C parts and a gang of guys lead by Richard Akin built a B in one day assembling all the different parts. Talk about a Frankin B. This one was one for the book. I understand it was retired from the museum collection and now lives with Richard Akin who donated the complete engine. We got to do this Build a B thing again sometime. This time we need to put in writing what the future of the built B will be after the fun is over. I would like to see a Year/Model like a War B on Steel come together from donated parts to go into a Museum

Thanks Kenny.  I guess based on your comments and Charlie's, you guys think I have a Franken B.  I was sure it wasn't a cobbled together tractor because there are markings on it that indicate it was owned by a municipality.  I think this is why it's in such good shape.  We'll never know I guess.
Best,
Steve

There are sockets built to fit 8 sided nuts. I have one, but not that size.

Ken in Texas wrote: Creston A forum member makes and sells a BIG wrench for those odd nuts or you can cut them off and buy new hex nuts from Fastenal

Ken in Texas wrote: Steve I ran that SN again in Terry Deans Allis Chalmers Data Book What you have is a 41 Tranny. What is the last number of the casting number on the mag side of the block? Looks like a 12 in the picture. That would mean the block was cast in 40. It is not impossible to have a unmolested 41 B with a 40 cast block early in a 1941 production. I presume it has foot brakes. The front wheels in 40 and up were the 5 bolt automotive type with separate hubs. The arched front axle was used every year the B was built along with adjustables like on Haney. Along with foot brakes came the tall seat frame. I can't tell for sure but I think you have the early hand brake low seat frame by the look of the rock shaft pivot brackets. There seems to be something odd about the seat back supports. Can you post a better picture of that area?

Kenny,
Thank you!  I thought that a 40 engine and 41 tranny were possible.  I'll get the engine number tomorrow and the seat pics tomorrow too.  The seat looks cobbled together to me, but it is very low.  I'm 6'5" and it puts me really close to the pedals! 
Thanks for helping me figure out this ole gal.
Steve

Larry hubbards was in my hometown nice find looks like it has the early b pressed steel wheels and the early b tractors did not have a line going to the gov I hope you enjoy the tractor

Edited by NICKMI - 28 Aug 2016 at 2:35pm

If it a really early motor, it would not have the threaded boss for the generator? alternator bracket.  Some have drilled two holes in the block wall and threaded the holes to hold an alternator.. If there is no cast boss on the block around the hole, then they were drilled and tapped later.